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Apr. 30th, 2004 10:16 am
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I have been reading about the Viginia "Marriage Affirmation Act" which would not only discriminate against gays, but it sounds like, even against people who want to do things like sign a lease with a roommate of the same gender. But I cannot find any primary source reference to it, just reporting in the gay press. Can anyone point me to an article in a regular news source like "The Washington Post" or CNN?

Looking to see if it was valid, I checked the Urban Legends site, and found a VERY good reason not to rejoin Curves - the owner is a heavy contributer to radical anti-abortion groups. I figured there was something bad about him when I found out there was a policy of not having Curves open on Sunday. (That's anti-Semitic, among other things.) Check it out
http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/curves.asp

Date: 2004-04-30 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skylarker.livejournal.com
What I've been hearing about the law in Virginia is appalling all right, going way beyond denying the rights of marriage and right into denying ordinary rights to make contracts, wills, etc. I foresee big Civil Liberties suits.

re: Curves. If a Jewish business owner had a policy of closing her business on her sabbath would you interpret it as Anti-Christian and Anti-Moslem?

Civil Liberties suits

Date: 2004-04-30 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catdeville.livejournal.com
What I've been hearing about the law in Virginia is appalling all right, going way beyond denying the rights of marriage and right into denying ordinary rights to make contracts, wills, etc.

yeah... sometimes that can be a good thing. *if* it manages to make it out of legislative committee, it can actually lay the ground work to prevent further legislation throught those Civil Liberties suits, i.e., it ends up gettting knocked down *and* setting precedent. If it goes high enough, it can actually provide more protections in the end.

sometimes I wonder, when I see the really extreme wording of some of these laws, if someone on "our" side isn't actually "seeding" them *just* to set them up to be knocked down.

re: Curves. If a Jewish business owner had a policy of closing her business on her sabbath would you interpret it as Anti-Christian and Anti-Moslem?
no, but I see a great deal of difference between observing one's own religious values and imposing them on others. the analogy is week because closing on the sabbath is not really an attack on anyone else's religious values. now, on the other hand, if i knew that jewish business person contributed a percentage of her profit to radical, violent, anti-moslem groups, I would probably boycott them as I would not want *my* money going through that business to those groups.

now, I'm not saying that a business owner doesn't have the right to contribute to anything that they wish, it's their money. but I have a right to vote with *my* dollar as well, when I know what they're doing with my money once I give it to them. closing on the sabbath simply ensures that I, as a consumer, will patronize some other business if I need service on the sabbath. Or, it might mean that I, as an employee, might choose not to work their if their Sabbath did not coincide with mine and it meant that I would have to work on my Sabbath while everone else got off for "their" sabbath.

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